2011 – 2012 Network TV renewals and cancelations

The fall 2011 and winter 2012 TV lineups are starting to flow in. Some really surprising results have come out. Some good shows or at least I thought they were good shows on Fox are getting the AX. Lie To Me, Human Target, The Chicago Code are all done.

Normally we weren’t suppose to find out about next seasons shows until next week but Fox started a little early this year.

2011 Broadcast Network Upfront Meetings

May 16, 2011 NBC New York Morning
May 16, 2011 FOX New York Afternoon
May 17, 2011 ABC New York Afternoon
May 18, 2011 CBS New York Afternoon
May 19, 2011 The CW New York Morning
May 19, 2011 Univision New York Afternoon


Cable networks also have advertising upfront events spread throughout March, April and May, but they aren’t typically “the day renewals and cancellations are revealed” as are the broadcast events.

TV By The Numbers

 

Also here is an in depth renewal/cancellation chart: TV Done Wright

What are your thoughts on the results for next years tv season?

  • that blows, i really enjoyed

    that blows, i really enjoyed Human Target even though i have like 5 episodes on my HTPC still unwatched…now do I commit the time to finish watching?

    Just like what happened to The Event, i recorded every episode and never watched, heard it was cancelled, deleted all.

    • The Event hasn’t been

      The Event hasn’t been cancelled as far as I know. You are missing out on a great show.

      • Nope it hasn’t “officially”

        Nope it hasn’t “officially” been canceled but by ratings its pretty much dead.

        • Well if they cancel, that’s

          Well if they cancel, that’s the way it goes. I still am not going to stop watching something I like simply because it gets cancelled. All shows come to an end. The Event is the type of show that could be fine as a single season and I wouldn’t feel cheated in the slightest.

  • Yup Now I have to go through

    Yup Now I have to go through all of by B list tv series and delete and remove series recordings for all those that got canceled.

  • I’m upset about Human Target

    I’m upset about Human Target and The Defenders, but will finish watching both series.  I wish Outlaw and Outsourced would have continued, but no big deal.  I may just delete The Event and V now, as I haven’t watched any of them yet.

    Very happy about HIMYM, Big Bang, Fringe, Castle, and House.  I’m hopeful for The Mentalist and Hawaii-Five-O, but wouldn’t lose any sleep if Hawaii-Five-O got cancelled.

  • My coworker was just filling

    My coworker was just filling me in about another Chevy advertisement that appeared during the Hawaii-Five-0. I’ve got a few to watch that I keep looking for a documentary on Netflix before watching the show. 

    I’m more interested in the schedule for existing series. Like when is “The Walking Dead”, “Dexter”, “True Blood” and “The Boardwalk” premiering. Some of these start in the summer months.

  • I’d be surprised (and bummed)

    I’d be surprised (and bummed) if The Mentalist didn’t get renewed.  I liked Lie to Me and Chicago Code, sucks that they got cancelled.  Kinda surprised to see Blue Bloods on the bubble, I was under the impression it was doing well.

    Two and a Half Men was renewed; gonna be interesting to see what they do with show next season.

  • Great, I watched Running

    Great, I watched Running Wilde, Human Target, Outsourced, and The Cape (even though it was a bit cheezy).  I guess I will have a lot more free time this fall.

     

  • This only proves that the

    This only proves that the networks are only in business to make money and don’t give a damn about providing quality programming.  Great shows get canceled because so many idiots out there prefer to watch fat people lose weight or others get voted off the island because they wouldn’t eat worms.  I’m getting tired of so many decent shows going down the drain because of the bottom line.  Still, the networks have to show a profit to stay in business.  It’s a shame that they are so quick to pull the plug these days. 

    Imagine what would have happened to shows like Seinfeld or M*A*S*H if they were introduced today.  They’d last maybe a couple of episodes before they got yanked off the air.  Network execs go into panic mode if they don’t see high market shares the first airing of a new show.  There are lots of good shows that don’t get viewed simply because word hasn’t gotten out on them yet.  Most of them disappear before you get a chance to see them.  I only hope some of these shows get picked up by independent networks and find a way to stay alive.

    • I blame all the mush minded

      I blame all the mush minded households that continue to watch reality tv crap to begin with, if people didn’t watch it, the networks wouldn’t continue to produce it.

    • captain_video wrote:This only

      [quote=captain_video]

      This only proves that the networks are only in business to make money and don’t give a damn about providing quality programming.

      [/quote]

      ROFL!  I understand what you’re getting at, but this statement is pretty amusing.  Of course the networks are only in business to make money.  Why else would you go into business, as opposed to charity?  😉

      [quote=paratwa]

       

      I guess I am guilty of not watching the shows live. I usually use icefilms to watch all my shows anyways. I really, really, really hate commercials!

      [/quote]

      Never fear.  Unless you’re a Nielsen family, you don’t count, anyway.  Actually, you MIGHT still count if the networks are also looking at your provider’s DVR stats.  But, most likely, you don’t matter.  No offense.  😉

      • skirge01 wrote:Never fear. 

        [quote=skirge01]

        Never fear.  Unless you’re a Nielsen family, you don’t count, anyway.  Actually, you MIGHT still count if the networks are also looking at your provider’s DVR stats.  But, most likely, you don’t matter.  No offense.  😉

        [/quote]

        That is why all these shows get canceled. The problem is neilson ratings are bunk. Look at this statistic alone….

        [quote] There are 25,000 total American households that participate in the Nielsen daily metered system.[11] The number of U.S. television households as of 2009 is 114,500,000.[12] As a result, the total number of Nielsen homes only amounts to 0.02183% of the total American television households.[/quote]

        So they are basing a rating system off of .02% of the nations tv watchers? Kind of bunk if you ask me. Plus that doesn’t take into consideration time shifted/DVR’d content either.

  • I’m kinda surprised $%# My

    I’m kinda surprised $%# My Dad Says is basically cancelled…wasn’t the buzz initially pretty good? Same thing with Outsourced, but i think we all knew that wasn’t going to last given how niche it was. Maybe that’s why The IT Crowd will never see the light of US :-/

    I’m gonna be bummed if Better With You and Mr. Sunshine gets cancelled…if only because I love the theme song to Mr. Sunshine so much.

    • Mike Garcen wrote:

      Maybe

      [quote=Mike Garcen]

      Maybe that’s why The IT Crowd will never see the light of US :-/

      [/quote]

      Shhhh, be careful what you say…  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd#American_version

      • oliverredfox wrote:Mike

        [quote=oliverredfox]

        [quote=Mike Garcen]

        Maybe that’s why The IT Crowd will never see the light of US :-/

        [/quote]

        Shhhh, be careful what you say…  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd#American_version

        [/quote]

        Yeah right. I remember reading that 4 years ago and getting excited, and where am i now? Still disappointed!! 🙂 It’s ok though, the brit version is funny enough for me–unlike the UK version of The Office which I barely laughed at.

        • Mike Garcen wrote:

          Yeah

          [quote=Mike Garcen]

          Yeah right. I remember reading that 4 years ago and getting excited, and where am i now? Still disappointed!! 🙂

          [/quote]

          It sounds like a release is still possible.  They’re “re-working” it, which generally has me worried.  I remember seeing the US pilot for Red Dwarf and realizing just how badly US executives could butcher British shows.

          [quote=Mike Garcen]

          It’s ok though, the brit version is funny enough for me–unlike the UK version of The Office which I barely laughed at.

          [/quote]

          I was the exact opposite.  I loved the UK version and when the US version aired I couldn’t stand it.  Now, I’ve come to like the US Office, but it took a while to get past being used to the UK one.

  • They are canceling

    They are canceling Outsourced? Are you freakin kidding me? That is the funniest show on TV right now!  I am also upset that they are canceling SGU. I know it was a bit slow, but I loved the characters and the background of the  space ship. Other than the original SG, all the rest of them were trash and not worth watching.

     

    As for all of the shows except for fringe, I don’t watch anyways, so I could care less that they are renewing them.

     

    Right now I only watch fringe, outsourced, house, V and a couple of others on the main channels. I watch the show justified, but they do not list that station.

     

    I guess I am guilty of not watching the shows live. I usually use icefilms to watch all my shows anyways. I really, really, really hate commercials!

  • Would somebody please take

    Would somebody please take the crack pipe away from the people that make these decisions?  They cancel good shows like Outsourced, $#*! My Dad Says, Outlaw, as well as others that are probably good shows that simply don’t interest me, but they renew shows like The Biggest Loser, Survivor, and a handful of other reality TV shows.  *bleep* you networks!!!

  • I’m sure some statistician

    I’m sure some statistician will chime in to say how, if the sample set used is accurately representative of the breadth of the country’s TV watchers, then the sample size is fine.

    There’s a better solution and it’s pretty easy.  But, I don’t think people would be okay with their providers tracking everything they watch, letting them know the sex, age, income level, career industry, etc, for everyone in the house.  Look at what Apple and Google are dealing with for using GPS tracking.

    Personally, I’d have no issue with them tracking what I watch or when I watch it (granted, I time-shift everything, but they really don’t need to know that), but ALL that other data?  A bit much.  I’d probably even be okay with age and the sex of people in the house.  Beyond that, they’re asking for too much.

  • I’m pretty sure that the

    I’m pretty sure that the network execs look at the cost of production vs. market share to decide which shows stay and which ones get the axe.  Reality TV and game shows are the cheapest to produce and give the highest return on investment, which is why there are so many of them.  Quality shows cost more to produce because they use actual actors, writers, and directors.  I’m half surprised they haven’t all gone to 24/7 infomercials.

    It’s getting to the point that I’m almost afraid to like a new show because chances are it will be canceled before the season is over.  Why invest my time if a show won’t be around longer than the run of the mill miniseries.  Networks should pay attention to the way the British develop TV shows.  Instead of developing a show that runs for the long term they basically just create a multitude of miniseries that may only have a 6 or 7 episode run.  If they let a show run that long they’d at least have enough info to make an educated decision about whether or not a show will be successful.  Instead, they run a show for a week or two and then trash it if it doesn’t get the ratings they want.

    Is there any doubt why I like the shows that air on the cable channels vs. the major networks?  The programming is generally better even though they have a smaller market share.  There’s not the same expectation of a larger share like the major networks so the shows tend to survive until they can garner a larger audience.  There are so many frickin’ shows on TV these days that it’s darn near impossible to pick up on all the good ones right away.

    • captain_video wrote:
      Networks

      [quote=captain_video]Networks should pay attention to the way the British develop TV shows.  Instead of developing a show that runs for the long term they basically just create a multitude of miniseries that may only have a 6 or 7 episode run.  If they let a show run that long they’d at least have enough info to make an educated decision about whether or not a show will be successful.  Instead, they run a show for a week or two and then trash it if it doesn’t get the ratings they want.

      [/quote]

      That reminds me of the Action Pack.  Some executive(s ) at Universal got the idea to do (4) 2-hour episodes for new shows.  It was to give a show more than the typical pilot run.  They initially did Bandit (based off Smokey and the Bandit), Vanishing Son, TekWar, and Hercules.  They were all syndicated shows and out of those four, only Hercules paid off as a successful series (which then led to Xena).  The idea was good and I’m surprised it hasn’t been redone by anyone else yet.

  • Another thing the British do

    Another thing the British do is they generally have the series (aka season, in US terms) END.  They don’t leave lingering questions between seasons, so that if it doesn’t continue, people are significantly less upset.  Doctor Who is a perfect example.  They have great story arcs and many ideas pass through to multiple seasons, but they don’t drop huge hints that don’t get resolved/answered in that same season.