Aaron Ledger
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[quote=”Skirge01″]
It’s not in the original article, but in the [url=http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20018722-1.html]update[/url] (posted 5 replies up).[quote][b]The bottom line[/b]
Despite the near doubling of MLL on the VT25 and G20 we’ve measured so far, both still exhibit some of the best overall black level performance available on the market today. In order of “blackest” initial black, the other 2010 plasmas in our lab at press time include the Samsung PN50C7000 ([b]0.017 MLL[/b]), Samsung PN50C8000 (0.019), and LG PX950 (0.030). All of these numbers are higher (worse) than our estimated “final” MLL of either Panasonic panel.[/quote][/quote]
Thanks.
[quote=”Skirge01″]
It’s not in the original article, but in the [url=http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20018722-1.html]update[/url] (posted 5 replies up).[quote][b]The bottom line[/b]
Despite the near doubling of MLL on the VT25 and G20 we’ve measured so far, both still exhibit some of the best overall black level performance available on the market today. In order of “blackest” initial black, the other 2010 plasmas in our lab at press time include the Samsung PN50C7000 ([b]0.017 MLL[/b]), Samsung PN50C8000 (0.019), and LG PX950 (0.030). All of these numbers are higher (worse) than our estimated “final” MLL of either Panasonic panel.[/quote][/quote]
Thanks.
[quote=”babgvant”]
The “0.017” number is from the CNET article.
[/quote]Can you point me towards the section where this number is? I can’t seem to find it when searching the article.
If that’s what he measured, I am surprised. Of course, it is surprising that PC Mag review says it has Kuro blacks as well. Perhaps there is some panel variance at play, firmware bug, phospors not aged enough, etc.
I can only report what my panel has done and that is that the mll has gone down slightly from .011 ftL to .008 ftL as the panel has aged.
[quote=”babgvant”]
The “0.017” number is from the CNET article.
[/quote]Can you point me towards the section where this number is? I can’t seem to find it when searching the article.
If that’s what he measured, I am surprised. Of course, it is surprising that PC Mag review says it has Kuro blacks as well. Perhaps there is some panel variance at play, firmware bug, phospors not aged enough, etc.
I can only report what my panel has done and that is that the mll has gone down slightly from .011 ftL to .008 ftL as the panel has aged.
[quote=”autoboy”]
Good to know that the black levels are still good on the Panny. But, I’m really not happy with knowing that my 2009 model will continue to get worse. Still, I don’t expect it to get much worse than Samsung’s 0.017
[/quote]I’m not sure where you have got that measurement from, but my C8000 measures .008 ftL with 60Hz and .011 ftL with 24Hz 4:4. Other C8000 owners have performed similar readings in the range of .007 – .009 ftL. D-nice also has said the C8000 measured in at .007 – .008 ftL at the HDTV shootout at Value Electronics.
[quote=”autoboy”]
Good to know that the black levels are still good on the Panny. But, I’m really not happy with knowing that my 2009 model will continue to get worse. Still, I don’t expect it to get much worse than Samsung’s 0.017
[/quote]I’m not sure where you have got that measurement from, but my C8000 measures .008 ftL with 60Hz and .011 ftL with 24Hz 4:4. Other C8000 owners have performed similar readings in the range of .007 – .009 ftL. D-nice also has said the C8000 measured in at .007 – .008 ftL at the HDTV shootout at Value Electronics.
My C8000 does buzz like all plasmas, but it is only audible if I put my ear up to the glass. It is inaudible a foot away.
My C8000 does buzz like all plasmas, but it is only audible if I put my ear up to the glass. It is inaudible a foot away.
Pretty amazing. I never knew anyone was doing something like this.
Pretty amazing. I never knew anyone was doing something like this.
September 15, 2010 at 10:47 pm in reply to: Re: Samsung PN58C8000 3D 58″ Plasma-First Review #1024http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20016466-1.html
Looks like we’ll finally get a CNET review on the PNC8000.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20016466-1.html
Looks like we’ll finally get a CNET review on the PNC8000.
August 31, 2010 at 1:38 pm in reply to: Re: Review: Ceton InfiniTV 4 Quad CableCARD Tuner – Part I #351Mikinho, regarding the up to 60 second time for the tuner to be available, you stated:
[quote=”Mikinho”]
Yes the ATI DCT has the same limitation. It is required by OCUR tuners.
[/quote]What exactly is going on during this time? Is it waiting for some specific signal that gets broadcast periodically to know that it is authenticated? If that is the case, I guess there’s nothing Ceton can do to improve the response.
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