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Home Security Products

My attention regarding all things tech has been diverted recently due to a burglary from my garage.  I was downstairs in my theater room on Friday night while burglars were making off with some of my stuff in the garage just a few feet away but out of visual and hearing range.  I replaced a broken lockset, changed the codes on the garage door and vowed to lock things up from now on.  Then I replaced the house lights with motion detector fixtures so anybody walking around will get a light.  I still got the creeps though and would like to say hello to anyone coming near my stuff again.  I thought there ought to be an audible alarm type device that would ring the doorbell or something when somebody or some motion is detected outside the walls of the house.  Home depot has this zenith brand device that wirelessly activates a beeper but my wristwatch alarm is louder so i took that back, then i went online to see what comes up on google when you type in motion detector and stumbled upon this
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http://www.homesecuritystore.com/ezStore123/DTProductZoom.asp?productID=...
this thing lets you wirelessly talk thru the speaker in the detector box.  a strobe alert would even be better to get my attention when the htpc is cranking.  any ideas, suggestions or interest in this here?

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http://www.smarthome.com/_/Security/_/H/land.aspx

Here is a link worht checking out

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Hello All,
Judging by the 2000+ views this thread shows since posting it in November, I hope I am not too off-topic for this forum.    Unfortunately a few strange occurances around the house have now prompted me to install a home surveillance camera system (to protect my HTPC of course  ;)  ).  I have been asking around for advice and am now pursuing a a diy home security camera system with the following specs:

~pc-based - i am planning to use an older htpc system i already have.
~a big hard-drive - they tell me 80 gigs will hold at least 14 days of continuous recording using 4 cameras
~a pci capture card with at least 4 camera inputs - this is where i could use some advice.
~4-cameras (exterior weatherproof use, color, nightime use (infrared) capable.  I need to learn the difference between ccd and cmos image detectors [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor ]
~30 frame per second PER CAMERA recording capability (this i believe is a function of the capture card).
~constant monitoring (vs motion detection)

A little online research (newegg, etc) brings up kits, cards and cameras with wide price differences.  the idea of a pci-based dvr card fits right in with my htpc experience so i feel like i have a good basic start at this.  Wired vs wireless is another issue i need to resolve.  I am willing and would like to log my efforts here and would appreciate any help, experience and/or advice anyone has regarding setting up a home surveillance system.  I will be heading over to the smarthome website for more info next.  Thanks.

jw

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It would certainly be interesting to follow this "build".  I wonder instead of a PCI capture card if the cameras could be ethernet or wifi enabled?  It might net a better quality image since you wouldn't have to run the analog video feed a long distance.  I've never done this before, so take this with a grain of salt.  ;D

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I built a basic surveillance/DVR system for the emergency veterinary hospital I work at after our all-in-one system from Costco bit the dust.  I used a Kguard Security SEC4X_7134B 8-channel DVR card from Newegg ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881377011 ). It comes with most of the features you could want, except possibly audio, and includes remote surveillance/notification via internet and mobile phone/smart phone.  I re-used the 4 original hard-wired cameras and added 2 more.

If you go this route, or want more information, I'll help you as best as I can based on my experiences.

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Very helpful, thanks for the prompt replies.  I just left a meeting with a guy whose job is cabling for ADT.  He says get a dedicated dvr unit with internet connectivity and a large harddrive.  He says motion detection is a good thing and says to definitely go with something he calls "auto-iris".  I suspect certain cameras may have auto lens aperature control for better nightime/low-light capture.  I was just thinking how cool it would be to relax in my secluded downstairs media room and know I could just toggle my system output to display my camera view screens just to check things out around the house from my couch and maybe get back a little peace of mind.

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john, i searched and learned there is a whole class of cameras (network cameras) that have rj45 output, some also having wifi capabilities.  These require a network (which i have) so next i need to learn how to record the camera feeds over the network onto a harddrive somewhere.

oildamonkey, that card has a few good reviews and seems real simple to implement, very affordable too, i was surprised.  the fact that it is a capture card is very appealing to me as it solves the task of recording the video feeds to the hard drive.

so as I went shopping for cameras the first thing i had to resolve was the image resolution i needed to get.  The advice i am getting says 420 lines minimum and 520 lines if i can afford it. so when checking camera specs, they don't all show "lines", some state the pixel measurements so i found this handi reference on wiki.
560×480 (420 lines): LaserDisc, Super VHS, Hi8
720×480 (520 lines): D-VHS, DVD, miniDV, Digital8, Digital Betacam (pro)

next thing regarding camera specs i am looking at is frame rate or frames per second (fps) capability. some cameras have different fps ratings depending on what image resolution they are set at.  ideally, based on recommendations so far, i want 30 fps at 720x480 (520 lines).  the mimimum i will be looking for is 30fps at 560x480 (420 lines).  I was warned not to get less than 30 fps.  seems these varmits move fast.

btw, i am told 32 fps is considered "real time".

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I started hanging out at cocoontech. They are all about automation over there. That is what prompted me to go down the HAI route. But my steps are small. Right now I only have the RC200 thermostat. But cameras will come in the future as I am in the learning phase.
One thing I know is that you don't want a cheap camera as you wouldn't not be able to make out the image well enough to recognize someone. And also outdoor cameras are expesive as they require heaters if they are going to make it thru a winter.

I have local kids crack into my truck when it is parked in my driveway and I have a streetlight and 3 outdoor lights come on as soon as it gets dark.

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I've also been thinking about adding a camera to my home. Different reasons of course. We're planning on getting a puppy, and my fiancee travels all week while I will be working. I figured putting a camera in the family room, running it to a pvr card and adding it to Sage it would provide quick and easy monitoring of the puppy for me if it starts to destroy the house while I'm at the office, and she can check in on the puppy when she needs a break from working. Seems like a good opportunity for reuse for me, watch the puppy, and then move the camera later to monitor outside.

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Sad as it is, a recent string of car burglaries in our neighborhood has me starting to look into wireless outdoor cameras now.  The heated camera issue that was mentioned was something that hadn't occurred to me.  Without the heater, the cameras can be very affordable, but, DAMN, those things are expensive once you add it!

Anyone have some suggestions?

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http://sellout.woot.com/ has the following today:

2.4 Ghz Wireless Motion Activated Security Camera and Receiver
$34.99

Based on the description it will automatically start recording to a DVR/VCR when motion is picked up so it's possible that this would work with a TV tuner card.  There was also a mention that up to 4 cameras could be used.  Just FYI.  The camera resolution wasn't specified but it is in color.

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? Vendor spam?
"so yield this with a atom of salt."
" It ability net a bigger superior angel back you "
I got drunk just reading this post.

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Meester.Rip wrote:

? Vendor spam?
"so yield this with a atom of salt."
" It ability net a bigger superior angel back you "
I got drunk just reading this post.

Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!

What?  Spam?  Where?  Wink

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Was it endorsing a product?  I thought spam for a second, then realized he wasn't selling anything.  The language seems as if he wrote it in english, then put it through 3 or 4 online translators before going back to english.

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He had a link at the end of his post in addition the broken English, it being his first thread and this thread's last post was 2 months ago. My guess is someone just opened an online store to sell or phish info and searched for threads about the subject "home security".

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Yep...  happens every so often.  Depending on how early I get up, I usually catch them and delete them before anyone sees it.  These people get paid to "advertise" for someone's site in multiple forums and are paid "per post".  They try to post something that seems like it may be on topic, then drop a link.  Just send me a PM and I'll take care of the messages.  I get notified immediately of PM's and can usually jump on right away, whereas I may not see a post about spam until much later.

We shall eat no spam before its time.

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