Thermaltake DH101 available

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Thermaltake DH101 available

I was looking at this case a while back but it was never available.  I finally settled on the Zalman HD160+ (at pcalchemy). 

Lo and behold, about a week later I see that the thermaltake case is available here:
http://www.directron.com/vf7001bns.html

I've ordered from these guys numerous times before, never had a problem so I can't say anything good or bad about their customer service policies.  The thing I like about them is that their prices are generally low and competitive and they only have sales tax for Texas. 

(btw that isn't an ad for them, just trying to give you guys as much information as possible.)

One thing to note about the case is that it runs 2 60mm fans.  Could be loud. 

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That is a sharp looking case. But I prefer the 120mm fans. We are defintely due for some updated cases.

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Meh. It's still the same crappy case (but with a face lift) that Thermaltake has been pedalling for the last few years.

It's pretty but looks only go so far until the terrible airflow melts your CPU.

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Agreed. It's a shame too, as the aesthetics are pretty nice....but it's so huge, it should really have some amazing cooling....alas.....

I think the way to tell this is an older design, is that a lot of the newer cases are all about minimalistic design...this thing has so much going on. Again...5 years ago, i would have killed for this Tongue But nowadays, i'm actually a fan of simplicity. (still love my Silverstone LC-10m though Tongue)

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shadymg wrote:

Agreed. It's a shame too, as the aesthetics are pretty nice....but it's so huge, it should really have some amazing cooling....alas.....

I think the way to tell this is an older design, is that a lot of the newer cases are all about minimalistic design...this thing has so much going on. Again...5 years ago, i would have killed for this Tongue But nowadays, i'm actually a fan of simplicity. (still love my Silverstone LC-10m though Tongue)

I'm really leaning towards this case as well.  Could you explain what you mean by simplicity of case design?  It seems many, if not most, HTPC cases have only two fan mounting positions, mainly in the rear (side by side).  This one includes a 120mm fan in front pushing cool air inward.  Quite often, this is more beneficial than 120mm blowing hot air out.  With a side-flow CPU cooler blowing air towards the back, perhaps 1 of the 60mm fans operating at the lowest speed, and the PSU fan sucking additional air out of that area, I would think this case would keep things cool nicely compared to most cases out there.  I realize that the SPCR-designed Antec cases are ideal, however, many are looking for full sized ATX mobo-supporting cases. 

This is my first PC build (aside from a Shuttle), so I don't have much experience with this at all, but judging by this case having 3 fans and a PSU fan blowing air out, not to mention all of the case venting, wouldn't this case fall into a better-than-average category of cooling potential? 

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Crim wrote:

Meh. It's still the same crappy case (but with a face lift) that Thermaltake has been pedalling for the last few years.

It's pretty but looks only go so far until the terrible airflow melts your CPU.

I think it's cute that we're already seeing people mimic our designs... Wink

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CTO, MAINGEAR Computers

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ChrisMorley wrote:

I think it's cute that we're already seeing people mimic our designs... Wink

Interesting.  You have something in mind that resembles this case, or one with "terrible airflow"?  I can't seem to find it.  :-\

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It bears a striking resemblance to our TF11, but with the typically added Thermaltake gaudiness.

And you don't need a wind tunnel to provide more than adequate air flow.  =)

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I don't really see the resemblance at all, save for perhaps the black color.  Although Thermaltake has not had tremendously chic designs in the past, I think they have a winning design here.  I would hasten to say that it would match existing high end hi-fi equipment much more readily than the Omaura units, which have squarish feet.  Don't get me wrong, I do like Omaura's designs and would be more than happy to have such a case on display in my living room.  However, the Thermaltake has a very nice retro chic design with its volume knob that harkens back to many older hifi equipment that people are paying TOP dollar for at the moment, and in that sense, I think the Thermaltake design to be very timely.  As for the gaudiness comment- sure, a graphic equalizer on display is a bit 'rice', but the display can be highly customized of course.  The front button layout will match quite nicely with my Marantz equipment, whereas the Omaura would utterly clash.  I think the Omaura would be more suited in its own rack complete with the HDD and TFT screen.  That would look stunning. 

I'm not sure why there is conflicting thoughts regarding the air flow within the Thermaltake case.  One poster above claims that a CPU would melt under such conditions, whereas our resident Omaura rep quips you don't need a wind tunnel to provide more than adequate air flow.  Having an internally directed air flow provided by a front mounted Scythe 120mm fan in addition to one (or two) 60mm exhaust fan plus PSU fan in the rear (with a side-flow Minja) should provide more than adequate air flow for such a case and be pretty silent.  Of course, I could be blowing hot air. 

Yep, I don't see much resemblance at all.

[img width=450 height=450]http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Chassis/desktop/dh101/+_image/03_angleView_450.gif[/img]
[img width=650 height=194]http://www.omaura.com/IMAGES/CONTENT/HARDWARE/TF11/TF11_HEADER.JPG[/img]

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ChrisMorley wrote:

It bears a striking resemblance to our TF11, but with the typically added Thermaltake gaudiness.

And you don't need a wind tunnel to provide more than adequate air flow.  =)
yeah - i don't quite get the "they are stealing our design" philosophy.  I love the look of the new cases...but come on..

Let us Look at the Facts
An HTPC Case
- Yes Both Are

Both Big And Boxy
- Yes Both Are

Both Are Black
- Again, Yes

Both Have External Drive Bay for Media
- Uh oh, things are getting fishy

Both Have a power button
- Ok, what's the number for US Patents??

Smile

All in fun...

p.s. - how do I get a TF5 on the black market Wink

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That's fine guys.  Wink

Chris Morley
Executive Vice President, Fluid Digital
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ChrisMorley wrote:

That's fine guys.  Wink

The resemblance is pretty clear to me. TT's DH is simply a "riced out" version (at least the front of it, internally TT has a terrible design) of it. Pretty clear to me.

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That's the same basic chassis TT has been using for years. I reviewed the Thermaltake Tenor back in 2006 and I can tell you that the DH101 is simply that design but tweaked with an 120mm fan intake in place of the 80mm fan the Tenor had, the second crossbar piece removed, and somewhat better asthetics, it looks like a Zalman HTPC case and a TT desktop case had a bastard child.

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Crim wrote:

The resemblance is pretty clear to me. TT's DH is simply a "riced out" version (at least the front of it, internally TT has a terrible design) of it. Pretty clear to me.

"Fry the CPU" and "terrible design".  It's pretty clear you don't like this case.  The few detailed reviews of this case give it an overall pretty good rating.  What is it exactly that would fry my CPU with a quality heatsink installed?  There are some noise issues that can be rectified with a fan replacement and some HD mounting grommets.  Aside from that, that is, if you indeed have such a large laundry list of cons regarding this case, could you constructively give advice for another ~$200 case with VFD/LCD display (no Silverstone's, please)?

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I learned quickly after joining missingremote forums that most people here feel that htpc cases should be neither seen nor heard.  A small minority, myself included, enjoys having a case on display, which generally means things like VFDs and volume knobs. 

I was fine with this and chalked it up to simple human differences.  I work as a web programmer and when you're dealing with user bases in the 100 thousands you quickly realize that not one look will satisfy everyone. 

What troubles me a bit is that sometimes you'll see instances like this thread, where the minority opinion gets bashed.  It's generally pretty civil but there are distinct undertones of "I'm right and you're wrong". 

Before my first ever popular thread gets turned into a flamewar, I'd just like to remind everyone that a sense of aesthetics is inherently personal and that most of you are here because the "standard" consumer electronic parts just weren't good enough and you wanted something to tailor to your own specific and personal needs. 

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Agreed, to each his own taste, let's not dwell on the front bezel style bashing. I personally don't really find the case to be too bad, now the old TT HTPC cases we're pretty awful esthetic wise, tons of blue LEDs, etc.

My only real beef with the DH101 is simply that TT has recycled the same mediocre design for generations, just tweaking the front bezel. It is a full height case, yet still has 60mm fans in the rear, 60mm fans in full height cases are the faux pa of early HTPC cases.

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I agree with you on the internals.  Besides lack of availability, concern over dual 60mm fans is what drove me to choose the Zalman HD160 Plus.  Even though I would have liked the dual-tone look (to match my hodge podge of various silver and black equipment), I would've been much more annoyed with a loud case.  Though now that I have my all black Zalman, I think it looks just as nice. 

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