MCE 2005 Fresh install - Windows Updated now seen as XP Pro??? wtf ???

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Mon, 04/23/2007 - 10:17pm

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Night Rider

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MCE 2005 Fresh install - Windows Updated now seen as XP Pro??? wtf ???

Hi,

Anyone else run into this. or have any ideas?

I just ran into this problem last week.
I did a fresh install from Legit CD's on my MCE PC.

It needed a fresh install to speed things up.

and now after updates from Windows update
The PC is now reported as XP Pro .....

Rollup update 2 will not install.
it identifies the install as XP Pro,
MCE shell runs just fine, Live TV etc...
But Windows cant see Vbox tuner in MCE

It was all working before >:(

I have a legit original Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 set of two disks.

Just a tip, for others
If durring install, installer asks for service pack two CD,
just put in CD 1

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 7:48am

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ChrisL01

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No, during the install when it asks for "Service Pack 2" you have to put in the second CD. Right now you have a broke Windows XP Professional install. You need to format and reinstall again to fix it.

CD1 --> CD2 --> CD1

Chris

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 10:12am

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Mike Garcen

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yeah, the wording on the installation couldn't be worse. just read it carefully and reinstall

Mike Garcen (shadymg) MissingRemote Editor-in-Chief Windows Entertainment and Connected Home MVP (formerly Media Center MVP) Twitter @mikegarcen MissingRemote on Facebook

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 1:41pm

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Night Rider

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Thanks Chris

I'm sorry, yes this is how I did my install CD1 --> CD2 --> CD1

After install from Cd's, XP MCE boot screen loads,
but after windows updates, XP Pro boot screen loads.

System properties show...

Microsoft Windows XP
Media Center Edition
Version 2002
Service Pack 2

Media Center works fine, however no digital tuners without update rollup 2.
MCE updates refuse to install.
claims I'm not running MCE

I will have to wait for a while to reinstall from scratch onto the Machine,
as my wife and kids will freak out if the Media Center is down again.

I have been running a HTPC with MCE for the last 5 years
and until last week MCE 2005
They really have got used to having it running.

plenty of shows to watch with two 300 Gig drives as RAID0

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 2:17pm

#5

Mike Garcen

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hrmmm...sounds like u installed it fine. do u have all ur other updates installed?

Mike Garcen (shadymg) MissingRemote Editor-in-Chief Windows Entertainment and Connected Home MVP (formerly Media Center MVP) Twitter @mikegarcen MissingRemote on Facebook

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 3:33pm

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Matt

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Also remember Rollup 2 requires .NET 1.1 SP1 to be installed before it.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=a8f5654f-088e-4...

Also note that having .NET 2.0 installed doesn't mean you can skip installing .NET 1.1 they are seperate frameworks.

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 5:05pm

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ChrisL01

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Sounds like a wrong registry Indent value

What does HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Indent have a value of?

Chris

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 5:18pm

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Night Rider

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Hi ChrisL01, shadymg, Matt

I'm at work right now, I don't get home until 1:00 am .... I work nights at a Newspaper.

Matt
I have all .NET framework up to 3.0 installed. including all previous .NET framework's

ChrisL01
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Indent
has a value of 1

Thanks

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 6:36pm

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ChrisL01

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Bingo.

MCE 2005 RTM (without any Update Rollups) that should be set at 3.0. If you have Update Rollup 1 installed, it should be 3.1. And after Update Rollup 2 it should be 4.0.

Make the change and it should work.

Chris

Tue, 04/24/2007 - 7:23pm

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Night Rider

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ChrisL01

I will double check the value for that reg setting, when I get home.

Thanks

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Wed, 04/25/2007 - 1:01am

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Night Rider

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Ident 2.8

That is strange.

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Wed, 04/25/2007 - 1:35am

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Night Rider

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windows shows these updates installed

Microsoft .NET framework 1.0 Hotfix
Microsoft .NET framework 1.1
Microsoft .NET framework 1.1 Hotfix
Microsoft .NET framework 2.0
Security update for Microsoft .NET framework 2.0 (KB922770)
Security update for Microsoft .NET framework 2.0 (KB917283)
Microsoft .NET framework 3.0

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Wed, 04/25/2007 - 10:36am

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ChrisL01

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Night Rider wrote:

Ident 2.8

That is strange.

That's ok, it often gets screwed up. When stuff sometimes gets installed in the wrong order it makes the wrong changes.

Edit it to a value of 3.0 if there are no Update Rollups installed. Then, try to install Update Rollup 2.

Chris

Wed, 04/25/2007 - 1:27pm

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Night Rider

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ok...
I will edit the value to 3.0 and try to install Update Rollup 2
and report back the results.

Thanks again ChrisL01

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

Wed, 04/25/2007 - 2:04pm

#15

Night Rider

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ChrisL01

It worked like a charm
I changed the Ident value from 2.8 to 3.0 and the update ran with out any problem.

Ident value is now 4.0

Thank you for your help

Digitalis Vision II HTPC chassis
Windows MCE 2005, Digitalis Vision II case, Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Canterwood, P4/3.0 GHz 800Mhz 478P/512K HT RT - Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu
(2) 300GB Maxtor Diamond Max Plus SATA 16Mb buffer RAID0 600 Gigabytes
(2) 500GB Maxtor DiamondMax11 SATA 3.0 set to 1.5 in Vantec EZ-Swap MRK-300ST SATA hard drive racks
Corsair 1GB TWINX1024-3200LL, Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Elite Pro, Pioneer DVR-106 Black Drive
Asus Radeon 9600XT/TVD/128M 8X with ZALMAN VF700-CU 2 Ball VGA cooler installed
(1) Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500MCE (1) VBOX Cat's Eye DTA-150 ATSC Terrestrial HDTV Receiver
Microsoft MCE Remote 2005 / Microsoft MCE Remote Keyboard / Logitech Cordless MX Duo
SeaSonic S12-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply, Vantec ThermoFlow 60mm Case Fans

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