Configuring a Media Centre PC to hibernate

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Configuring a Media Centre PC to hibernate

I would like to configure my HTPC so that when it's not in use for extended periods of time, and the extenders are not accessing it, that it enters hibernation mode.

My HTPC is solely used as a media centre system which is connected to the living room TV. I've got 4 extenders dotted around the house (2 Linksys DMA2100 using wireless and 2 XBox360 using wired network) and I've just about to setup a WHS. I would like to get the HTPC to hibernate during extended periods of idle time, but because I haven't been able to configure it properly to hibernate I end up having it on all the time. The issues I've run into are listed below my hardware specifications.

Asus P5W DH Deluxe
Seasonic S12 PSU
Vista Ultimate x64
3 x Hauppauge Nova-T-500 DVB-t twin tuners
1 x Terratec Cinergy 2400i DVB-t tuner

One of the issues I have is USB re-enumeration. This causes a problem with the Hauppauge card's 2nd tuner which uses a USB bridge to connect to the PCI slot. When Vista resumes/reboots it will think it's found new hardware (creating new entries in the registry). This means that 3 of my tuners are rendered useless unless I reconfigure the tuners which rather defeats the purpose.

I cannot resume the PC from hibernation using the MC remote (the Microsoft receiver is a USB device). I have to use a keyboard that is physically connected to the PC which is hardly convenient in the living room environment.

I cannot resume the PC from hibernation using the extenders (whether they're connected via wired or wireless network.

Quite clearly I'm doing something wrong. I've experimented with settings in several places including the BIOS, the device manager settings for the network and also the power schemes but to no avail. And before anyone asks, the motherboard in question doesn't have any jumper setting to invoke WOL, it's done via the BIOS.

Vista Ultimate 64bit configuered with 8 DVB-t tuners
Accent HT-400 + Asus P5W DH Deluxe + 6600 Core2Duo (XP-120) + 7600GT (Zalman VF900) + Seasonic S12-430

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Sadly, this is one of those things you can fuss with forever and never get working exactly the way you want. I have an extremely similar setup as you (Asus P5B SE, Corsair PSU which is just a rebranded Seasonic, Vista Ultimate x32). My tuner however is an AverMedia m780 PCIe card though. I too wanted the system to hibernate and be able to woken up by whatever needed to use it such as extenders. At first it did sleep just fine on its own after changing the standby to S1 in the bios. But then once I installed my extender, it refuses to sleep. Not just on its own, but also if I force it to. Something just wakes it right back up. I haven't been able to pinpoint it yet. I too did allow USB devices to wake it and was using a USB keyboard. It had been working with that setup before and isn't now. So it just becomes a matter of tiral and error finding out the cause. If you narrow yours down let me know because my issue might be the same considering our similar motherboards.

EDIT: or maybe it was S3. I don't remember now, I'd changed it so many times and I'm not home to check. It was working with one of em for awhile.

Also, I wanted to link this article that sounds promising, though not helpful for current hardware.

7MC - Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 - Avermedia M780 - Dvico Fusion HDTV7 - Terk HDTVa - Xbox 360 S - Logitech Harmony 650 - Panasonic V10 - Onkyo HT-RC160

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Are you sure you want it to hibernate?  Or do you want it to go to sleep (S3- Standby).

I use the Standby option to allow the system to go to sleep after 10 minutes of inactivity.  And the MCE remote will wake it up as will any scheduled recording.  I don't think that works if it goes into a hibernate state.

With standby the RAM is kept alive but rest of the system is basically shutdown.  With hibernate the contents of the RAM is written to disk and system powers down.  Standby is much quicker to restart from compared to hibernate as well.  IMHO, hibernate is for laptops so you don't drain the battery when the system is not in use for an extended period of time.  Standby is for both laptops and desktops just keep in mind that standby will continue to drain the battery on a laptop.

Please forgive me if I am explaining what you already know.

 

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Hibernating is nicer than just sleeping. That sucker is practically off.

My system will go to sleep still (standby). Although that's a bit wonky as well after hooking up the extender. But not as wonky as hibernation, which it now outright refuses to do.

7MC - Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 - Avermedia M780 - Dvico Fusion HDTV7 - Terk HDTVa - Xbox 360 S - Logitech Harmony 650 - Panasonic V10 - Onkyo HT-RC160

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Hibernation with 4GB of memory now takes longer to recover from than a full shutdown.  I only use hibernate on my laptop (which still has problems coming out of it once in awhile.  thanks Vista) but I never use it anymore on my desktops.  S3 standby uses very little power so you will not see a difference in power usage b/w S3 and Hibernate because even fully off, a computer uses ~10W of power while plugged in.  Now, i just wish my new gaming machine could enter S3.  It never wakes up from it fully so I am stuck with S1 which is not as power efficient and does not turn off the fans.

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Yeah it was 8 months ago that I actually messed with any of that crap, which is why I can't remember anything. I only started caring again when I bought my xbox in May and noticed stuff was all screwy. But I didn't actually put forth any effort to fix it. Perhaps I'll actually check it out some time soon.

7MC - Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 - Avermedia M780 - Dvico Fusion HDTV7 - Terk HDTVa - Xbox 360 S - Logitech Harmony 650 - Panasonic V10 - Onkyo HT-RC160

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Oh the irony. So because of this thread I decided to revisit my hibernate settings to see why it stopped working since adding the extender. Went through the advanced power options and changed things, most importantly that last one about sharing media (which I had tried before back when I first installed the extender in May and it didn't work). At first it didn't work either... so before going to bed I manually forced it to hibernate. Then strangely enough the next day it managed to hibernate on its own without my help. I figured this was a fluke as it hadn't been working previously with the same settings. But then it did it again. I figured that rebooting would kill this string of luck, but I had some windows updates to install that required a restart and had to. But lo and behold, it's still working. Very strange. I hate when stuff randomly decides to start/stop working, I can only imagine I had a program installed in there somewhere that kept waking it before. Or maybe a program update/windows update fixed whatever caused it to stop originally.

I didn't bother going back in the BIOS since I'd messed with it so much 8 months ago and had already gotten it to the point where it had once worked.

7MC - Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 - Avermedia M780 - Dvico Fusion HDTV7 - Terk HDTVa - Xbox 360 S - Logitech Harmony 650 - Panasonic V10 - Onkyo HT-RC160

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I've been trying for a few days to get my HTPC to go into standby with no luck.  I'm running MediaPortal as a front end.
I've messed with the BIOS, power management settings, MCE Shutdown Tool and the Power Management plug in for MP, but this thing will not go into standby.  I remember it did before, but XBMC on my Xbox wouldn't wake it, so I turned off the standby.
My HTPC components are:
MSI K8NGM2-FID mobo
AMD X2 3800+ CPU
2gb RAM
320gb WD HDD
500gb WD HDD
1tb Seagate HDD
PVR-150 capture card
Asus EN8600GT Silent V.C.
I use an old keyboard (PS2 connector?) & a USB mouse.
I tried the standby setup from exoid.com but it didn't help either.  If anybody's got any tips, I'd sure be grateful.  It's funny how standby works for some people but not others.

Edit: Is it possible that the LCD display would prevent it from going into standby? The case is an nMedia 280.

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jennyfur wrote:

Oh the irony.

It's messing with your head Jenny! 

(this gives me "the willies"... I've been re-watching Terminator - SCC episodes... Skynet? Is it starting?  Shock )

Dude...  How old IS this FusionHDTV3 ???

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cgsheen wrote:

jennyfur wrote:

Oh the irony.

It's messing with your head Jenny! 

(this gives me "the willies"... I've been re-watching Terminator - SCC episodes... Skynet? Is it starting?  Shock )

So long as I don't end up like Miles Dyson (DieSoon?) we're OK.  Wink

In other news, I turned the hibernate setting back off last night. Apparently after waking back up, something is more susceptible to crashing. I got my first vista blue screen ever, and then another the next day. Impressive that that feat took nearly 9 months, XP bluescreened the first day I'd installed it.

7MC - Hauppauge WinTV-DCR-2650 - Avermedia M780 - Dvico Fusion HDTV7 - Terk HDTVa - Xbox 360 S - Logitech Harmony 650 - Panasonic V10 - Onkyo HT-RC160

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