Blog: Be Careful with CableCard...it can Cost you MORE than you Expect!

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Blog: Be Careful with CableCard...it can Cost you MORE than you Expect!

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Hey! 

This is not just for cable card subscribers!  I have a R5000 with Comcast in Los Altos Ca (close to San Jose) and i also pay the $6.99.  I hadn't really paid much attention to it.  I don't rent anything from my cable company and yet they charge me like I am?  WTF?

On the bright side, this makes the HD-PVR the same monthly price as having a R5000 and more economical than a cable card.

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I hope Microsoft and DirecTV get their act together and get their supposed tuner out AND that it's done right.  Maybe everyone will jump ship from cable to teach them a lesson.

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VERY good point Autoboy, didn't think about that but great point. I think this is a huge selling point for the HDHomeRun....as in my area at least, it would make it cheaper than cablecard. *sigh*

and HTPC_User is spot on as well...it's all about competition. Comcast KNOWS that there's no alternative for Cable card users, and they have a 100% monopoly, so they'll do whatever they want, until users like myself have ANY OTHER CHOICE

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I'm kinda locked into comcast with my R5000.  I love it too.  I can't really switch to dish very easily because i spend all this money building around comcast.  Way to go comcast!  You sure do know how to screw your loyal customers.  I even defended comcast awhile ago.  Attention comcast: when you apply unfounded costs for doing absolutely nothing you will really piss people off.

Update:  I called comcast and because one of my R5000s is down (won't change channels) they are going to try to remove the $6.99.  This apparently is supposed to be for Additional Digital connections and one connection is included.  I told him my situation, that the FCC requires them to let me use my own box, and he is working on it.  I'll let everyone know if it gets done. 

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I'd also suggest people write to the FCC about this.  Glad I stuck with DirecTV all these years.

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>:( >:( >:(
This makes me so angry that I don't even have words to respond.

I'm already dangerously close to canceling comcast for good as it is, news like this makes me want to even more.

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Dish has a nice HD-only package. It's costing me about $29.99 + taxes and a box for like $5 bucks. It's another $5 if you want your locals (which for some reason my HDHomerun can find, so I won't pay extra for them but they can't be tuned on the Dish box). Next month the HD-PVR arrives and I will actually be happy with my provider. Kind of weird.

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I think it is possible to get the R5000 for dish.  So, that is possible...  I way overpay for my cable.

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I had a fun week last week trying to get comcast to install my M-card

but I can't really beat this month's bill (not sure what is going to happen the month): for some reason I am not being charged for my service at all. There are some add-ons I am paying for but the service itself is not on the bill...

odd.

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I'm not sure if is the same thing, but out here in Hawaii, TWC charges what they call a 'Duplication of Services' fee. I believe it is about $8 and is charged for all connections beyond the first that use anything beyond the basic cable service. The result is that the charge is applied for each digital cable connection, which includes cable cards and their own set top boxes. That's right. I was renting 3 STBs from them and I was charged about $16 a month above all other service and rental fees.

I have since returned one of the boxes, but the remaining fee still rubs me the wrong way. Of course I do get warm fuzzies every time I record a hi-def program with my HD-PVR (a second unit is on the way). And soon I'll have my auto commercial skipping back with ShowAnalyzerV1. Yeah....take that TWC!!  >:D

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Mike

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thanks Mike. it's interesting to read that well, basically ALL the MSO's are taking advantage of their customers every chance they get. I sure hope this gets more attention, as it's ludicrous!!

Mike Garcen (shadymg) MissingRemote Editor-in-Chief Windows Entertainment and Connected Home MVP (formerly Media Center MVP) Twitter @mikegarcen MissingRemote on Facebook

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I think they are justifying this by the fact that an extra digital connection takes extra bandwidth for OnDemand and switched digital video.  With an analog connection there was no additional load for each TV connected.

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it's a lie. it's all a lie. I live in an apt complex, and I use ONE outlet for all my ATI Tuners. It doesn't cost them a PENNY MORE!!

I updated the blog entry with some new details when I asked a CSR about the Comcast FAQ. Not good....Comcast has tied the charge into their system. They sure know how to get their money Sad

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Hello, if you cannot get Comcast to drop the fees, file a complaint with FCC and in San Francisco area, go to KGO.COM and file a complaint with On Your Side link. KGO has been able to resolve problems with Comcast.

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thanks for the tip. i actually had my 6-month trial run out, and i used the fact that u-verse is in my area to call them up and negotiated down quite a bit. got like $40 off my bill, so not bad.

Mike Garcen (shadymg) MissingRemote Editor-in-Chief Windows Entertainment and Connected Home MVP (formerly Media Center MVP) Twitter @mikegarcen MissingRemote on Facebook

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