780G DVD Playback

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780G DVD Playback

This may be a dumb question, but I'm not too proud, and I want to be sure that my instincts are correct since I've never had such a problem.

I'm having a problem playing DVDs form original disk on my Gigabyte 780G Motherboard.  The problem is that the screen is filled with fluorescent colored blocks obscuring the picture.  I believe that this is a copy protection thing, since playback of backed-up DVDs is fine both from HDD and Disk. 

I have the computer hooked up with a DVI cable to a DVI-HDMI adapter to my TV's HDMI slot and am running Vista Home Premium.  Could the problem be that the adapter is preventing a proper copy protection handshake (or whatever it is called)? Would a new HDMI cable solve my problem?  Is there anything else I should try before dropping some cash on a new cable?

Everything worked fine with the same setup on my old 6150 motherboard running MCE05.

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I suppose, your cabling arangement is a bit odd. The Gigabyte has a native HDMI port on board, you really should use the HDMI port with an HDMI cable to your TV.

But what's odd is that DVDs don't require HDCP, just a digital connection, the rules were made long ago, and they simply wrote that a digital connection must be used for upscaling and not an analog one (to help plug the analog hole).

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What are you using for playback?  I've never seen anything like that on my 780G, but I don't use HDMI - just DVI straight from the MB to the TV...  But, as far as I know, DVI / HDMI should be "same / same" for DVD.  And I can use WMP, Media Center, PDVD7, and WinDVD9 to play standard DVD's.  Like Matt said, I don't know why the issue would be with commercial DVD's.  Do you have AnyDVD?

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Just using regular VMC.  I have also tried it with WMP11, same problem.  No I do not have AnyDVD installed.

Am I correct that the fluorescent colored blocks is typical of copy protection problems?  Like I said before, I do not suspect a decoder problem since backed up DVD's play fine with protection removed.

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Just using regular VMC.  I have also tried it with WMP11, same problem.  No I do not have AnyDVD installed.

Am I correct that the fluorescent colored blocks is typical of copy protection problems?  Like I said before, I do not suspect a decoder problem since backed up DVD's play fine with protection removed.

Sort of, copy protection problems normally end up with digital snow and then the TV and/or player erroring about copy protection.

That almost sounds like a cable problem, like the DVI transmission has a high rate of errors. Like I said snag a basic HDMI cable and go HDMI to HDMI since your mobo and TV both support it natively.

Oh and using WMP11 and VMC basically equate to the same thing, so it isn't much of a test, if you want to test, test using an application from a vendor that isn't MS (ZoomPlayer Pro, PowerDVD, etc).

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Cable ordered from Monoprice.com (and a bunch of other cables that I kind of needed for the same price of just a HDMI cable at regular stores).  Lets hope it works, I'll update later.

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Cable ordered from Monoprice.com (and a bunch of other cables that I kind of needed for the same price of just a HDMI cable at regular stores).  Lets hope it works, I'll update later.

Speaking of monoprice.com... this past weekend I wanted to get a firewire cable to test my neighbor's STB firewire port.  Of course after digging through all my junk I couldn't locate one, so I headed out to pick one up locally.  Boy was I surprised when I saw the price.  $35 for a friggin 6 foot firewire cable?  No thanks.  I came home and ordered one from Monoprice.com for about $3.50 with shipping.  That was Saturday.  Now, on Tuesday I see that it has arrived and looks great.  I should have purchased 20 and sold them to the local store for $10 each.  ;D

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So if I have the 690G MB with a 3870 discrete card which output should I use? The hdmi out on the MB or the DVI to HDMI from the video card? I assumed the avivo processing of the discrete card would make the video better. This MB has my BD drive in it also.

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The x1250 IGP on the 690G is OK for DVD's & other standard video, even ATSC (OTA) HDTV but you probably won't want to use it for Blue Disc.  Mine worked (works) fairly well for one BD format, but you probably won't be happy using it for BD...  It's DB performance relies heavily on the strength of your CPU. ( On the other hand, the 780G and it's HD3200 IGP works very well for all things BD. )  I don't know anything about the 3870, but I'm assuming you'll want to use it.

Dude...  How old IS this FusionHDTV3 ???

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I guess I'm too late, since you've already ordered your cable, but for me this problem was solved by installing ATI's latest Catalyst package, version 8.4 (released Apr. 16).

I had discovered the problem before that driver was released and spent days trying different hardware and software combinations.  I believe I had it narrowed down to the specific combination of this Gigabyte board (although other 780G boards may be affected) with Catalyst drivers from 8.1 to 8.3 (the 780G isn't supported by the 7.x drivers) under Vista Home Premium with SP1 installed.  I may be wrong about the SP1 bit, but if you read the link below, it seems that a hotfix included in SP1 is likely a factor.

http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27716&sid=df1148965a02c...

I also noticed that the problem only occurred in Vista Media Center and WMP 11, and only when playing off the disc itself.  DVDs played fine in other applications such as Media Player Classic or when ripped to HD first.  So I wouldn't rule out copy protection stuff as another factor.

Anyway, try the 8.4 package, and let us know if it works.

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Forgot to mention that I had the problem while using a regular DVI-to-DVI cable plugged into two different non-HDCP displays.  I didn't have an HDCP display to test it on.  My memory is hazy, but I'm fairly certain that playback was fine when using a VGA cable.

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I guess I'm too late, since you've already ordered your cable, but for me this problem was solved by installing ATI's latest Catalyst package, version 8.4 (released Apr. 16).

I had discovered the problem before that driver was released and spent days trying different hardware and software combinations.  I believe I had it narrowed down to the specific combination of this Gigabyte board (although other 780G boards may be affected) with Catalyst drivers from 8.1 to 8.3 (the 780G isn't supported by the 7.x drivers) under Vista Home Premium with SP1 installed.  I may be wrong about the SP1 bit, but if you read the link below, it seems that a hotfix included in SP1 is likely a factor.

http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27716&sid=df1148965a02c...

I also noticed that the problem only occurred in Vista Media Center and WMP 11, and only when playing off the disc itself.  DVDs played fine in other applications such as Media Player Classic or when ripped to HD first.  So I wouldn't rule out copy protection stuff as another factor.

Anyway, try the 8.4 package, and let us know if it works.

Thanks a lot, I'll defiantly check out different drivers.  No worries about the cable, it didn't cost much (much cheaper than I thought it would be, monoprice really is great), and I knew I should get one anyways.

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If you have any additional codecs installed, I'd check them and reinstall.  Different codecs can break one another (on occasion) and cause some real bad distortion of the image, including bright green and pink boxes.

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I upgraded to Catalyst 8.4 Drivers, problem appears to be solved.

The answer was in the 8.4 driver notes the whole time:
[quote="Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating
System"]Corruption is no longer noticed on the Windows Vista desktop when playing a
DVD title when using the Windows Media Player. Further details can be
found in topic number 737-33383

UPS is bringing my new cable tomorrow.  :Smile

Thanks spearce.

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Nice it was a simple fix. I didn't even think that you might not be on Cat 8.4, so between that and not having an ATI card around right now I was out of the loop on that one!

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